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ZynFusion goes Open Source

Postby chaocrator » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:03 pm

i don't understand why the letter about it was a day ago, and there's still no relevant topic here.
it's breaking, because ZynFusion is much more convenient than legacy ZynAddSubFX UI.
so:

As of December 31st 2017 the full source for the Zyn-Fusion interface has been freely available on github with a combination of MIT and GPL based licenses. Additionally the Zyn-Fusion VST/LV2 versions have been ported to OSX (10.6+).

For those interested in the OSX version you can find a free demo at http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net/demo.html and the full version over at https://gumroad.com/l/zyn-fusion .

Source for the GUI can be found at https://github.com/mruby-zest and build scripts can be found at https://github.com/zynaddsubfx/zyn-fusion-build and https://github.com/zynaddsubfx/zyn-build-osx .

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Re: ZynFusion goes Open Source

Postby bluebell » Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:29 pm

Did anyone test it with existing Qtractor- or Ardour-projects? It seems that it has the same name as the older zynaddsubfx and will overwrite it.

That's no problem if it can read the stored parms and sounds the same then.

That's a big problem if it can't.
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Re: ZynFusion goes Open Source

Postby ssj71 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:06 pm

bluebell wrote:That's no problem if it can read the stored parms and sounds the same then.

That's a big problem if it can't.


The preset format wasn't changed and is backward compatible. It does replace the old zyn, its really just a new UI, same engine.

The release is a big deal, we should be making some more noise about it. :)
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Re: ZynFusion goes Open Source

Postby Michael Willis » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:57 pm

Maybe I'm being thick, but I couldn't find how to download and build Zyn Fusion... I found the related mruby-zest and zyn-fusion-build, but both of those seem to be supporting projects rather than the source code itself. Am I missing something obvious?

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Re: ZynFusion goes Open Source

Postby fundamental » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:06 pm

Michael Willis wrote:Maybe I'm being thick, but I couldn't find how to download and build Zyn Fusion...


You're looking for https://github.com/zynaddsubfx/zyn-fusi ... g-on-Linux

The new UI has a lot of different components which are broken into sub-libraries. Most of them are combined within the mruby-zest-build repo.
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Re: ZynFusion goes Open Source

Postby jonetsu » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:10 pm

Speaking of ZynFusion, that I got last summer, are there other patch/sound libraries available than the bundled ones ?

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Re: ZynFusion goes Open Source

Postby fundamental » Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:06 am

are there other patch/sound libraries available than the bundled ones ?


1,319 instruments not enough for you eh?
If you're looking for other presets I would suggest https://www.kvraudio.com/product/zynadd ... /downloads for zyn specific banks and https://musical-artifacts.com/ for more general open source audio program presets.
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Re: ZynFusion goes Open Source

Postby mclstr » Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:17 am

I so want this project to work. I would love to have a VST version that worked.
I have donated money to the project, but I myself have only basic programing skills.

I am one of the many who have had nothing but problems, usually with the compilation and bugs in the install scripts.

I don't know the exact cause, but suspect it could be remedied if it wasn't for all the known permission problems/requirements in the code that are being ignored by the developers.

Or maybe it is an abandoned project?

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Re: ZynFusion goes Open Source

Postby fundamental » Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:58 am

mclstr wrote:I am one of the many who have had nothing but problems, usually with the compilation and bugs in the install scripts.


If you encounter a bug the best place to track it is over on the github issue tracker.

mclstr wrote:Or maybe it is an abandoned project?


I'm legitimately curious what makes you think that the project is abandoned. This thread is only 5 days old or so, the previous poster had the flair "ZynAddSubFX maintainer", there's activity on the bug tracker for the build scripts you mention, there's activity on the kvr forums about the development, and there's activity on the zyn specific mailing list. What's missing to make you think that it's abandoned?
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Re: ZynFusion goes Open Source

Postby mclstr » Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:12 am

fundamental wrote:
mclstr wrote:I am one of the many who have had nothing but problems, usually with the compilation and bugs in the install scripts.


If you encounter a bug the best place to track it is over on the github issue tracker.


The issues with permissions have been posted for some time at various times and closed with no resolution.

We have tried installing as user, sudo and as root. Always get the same permission problems. I don't know how installing as root gives permission problems, unless the script is trying to sudo to a non-existent user and installing to directories that are owned by root?

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Re: ZynFusion goes Open Source

Postby fundamental » Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:20 am

mclstr wrote:The issues with permissions have been posted for some time at various times and closed with no resolution.

We have tried installing as user, sudo and as root. Always get the same permission problems. I don't know how installing as root gives permission problems, unless the script is trying to sudo to a non-existent user and installing to directories that are owned by root?


I honestly don't know which/what issue you're referring to.
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Re: ZynFusion goes Open Source

Postby Michael Willis » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:36 am

fundamental wrote:You're looking for https://github.com/zynaddsubfx/zyn-fusi ... g-on-Linux

Thanks! It built and installed without any trouble.

mclstr wrote:We have tried installing as user, sudo and as root. Always get the same permission problems.

What distro are you running? Did you follow the instructions in the link above? What is the error message that you keep getting?

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Re: ZynFusion goes Open Source

Postby mclstr » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:48 pm

Michael Willis wrote:
fundamental wrote:You're looking for https://github.com/zynaddsubfx/zyn-fusi ... g-on-Linux

What distro are you running? Did you follow the instructions in the link above? What is the error message that you keep getting?


I did follow the instructions. Installed all the dependencies. I even tried variations. Installed as root, sudo and user. Always get the error about unable to write typical root owned directories, /opt, usr/, . It never asks for sudo password and never get an error about dependencies.

When I posted the bug to github, I get a reply that issue has already been posted and then close my ticket as resolved.

This last try was on Ubuntu Studio 64 bit. My previous tries have been trying to compile from the source tarball on other flavors of Debian.

I feel bad that I haven't been able to to troubleshoot, but I just don't have time lately. I hope to find the problem when I get time.

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Re: ZynFusion goes Open Source

Postby fundamental » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:03 am

mclstr wrote:I did follow the instructions. Installed all the dependencies. I even tried variations. Installed as root, sudo and user. Always get the error about unable to write typical root owned directories, /opt, usr/, . It never asks for sudo password and never get an error about dependencies.

When do you get the error? During what part of the build instructions? Is it during the install of the generated package?

If it's during the install of the generated package, the README included with the package states ( https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mruby ... README.txt ) :
To install zyn-fusion please run the install script as root:
sudo sh ./install-linux.sh


mclstr wrote:When I posted the bug to github

Please post a full URL when you're talking about a particular bug.
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Re: ZynFusion goes Open Source

Postby chaocrator » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:16 am

and … seems like new shiny UI does not work properly with i915 video (at least out of the box, but i have no idea what to tune).
reverted my installation to legacy UI build :(


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